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1st Generation FAQ: Suspension, Tires, Brakes

What's the difference between Rally I and II wheels?
What can I do to stop the shaking and wandering of my car?
What is that sticky spot developing in my steering?
What determined whether a Camaro got mono- or multi-leaf springs?
What do I need to convert my front drums to disc brakes?

 
 
What's the difference between Rally I and II wheels?

The Rally I wheel is vastly different from the Rally II wheel. The Rally I wheel is patterned after a slotted mag with 5 oval slots much like the Chevy styled wheel. The difference between the Chevy wheel and the Pontiac wheel is that the slots are fluted at the slot and the Chevy's are flat. Also the slots are larger. This wheel also has large center cap that includes 5 holes for the lug nuts. The Rally I wheel came in one size only, 14". These wheels were available on Tempests, Lemans's GTOs, and Firebirds from 1965 to 1968. The only difference between years is in 1965 the center cap is completely chromed; all other years the cap has black center with a chromed edge.

The Rally II wheel was available beginning in 1968 on Pontiac A-bodies (GTO, etc.) and F-Bodies (and later on larger Pontiacs). These wheels are the five spoke pattern with a small center cap with "PMD" (Pontiac Motor Division) written on them. There are many differences to these wheels. Trim rings, center caps, lug nuts, rims sizes, widths, and offsets were all changed at one time or another.

The Rally I wheels are valuable to A-Body people especially 1965, if they are complete and in good condition.

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What can I do to stop the shaking and wandering of my car?

One or a combination of these should help the problem:

  • Balance the tires/wheels

  • Align the front end (caster/camber/toe)

  • Replace the upper control arm bushings

  • Replace the shocks

  • Replace the rear leaf spring bushings

  • Replace the rear leaf springs

  • Replace the front wheel bearings

  • Tighten the steering box bolts

  • Replace the subframe body mount bushings

  • Install a set of sub-frame connectors

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What is that sticky spot developing in my steering?

The first place to look may be under the car. If it is in one spot, it correlates to the actual position of the parts, (if it was at random it might have been the power starting pump for instance). You have a steering pitman arm on the steering gear box, and an idler arm on the other side. They are joined by a rod, which then has little extensions that move the spindles (wheel supports) back and forth. A binding in any of the joints could cause that effect. The idler arm may have a sticky joint or the joint where the spindles are turned could be sticking. It could also be a problem with the sector gear in the steering box.

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What determined whether a Camaro got mono- or multileaf springs?

All 1967's were monoleaf, however there are various ratings of these. See the beginning of your assembly manual for these. 1968 and 1969 are the most elusive as there's no hardcore evidence showing why one or the other was used, but based on some documentation and experience, here's what is known so far. The 1968's were determined not only by horsepower, but also by the transmission. A 1968 with a 275hp 327ci engine and a powerglide tranny got monoleaf, but the same car in a 4-speed came with multileaf and rear bumper guards to denote the special rear suspension. Unless car was ordered with the guards, then it had them anyway. The 1969's that had the 327ci or 210hp 350ci 2bbl engines all got monoleaf. 1968 and 1969's with the TOURQUE-DRIVE all had monoleafs. All 6 cylinder cars for all 3 years, came with monoleafs.

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What do I need to convert my front drums to disc brakes?

This is one of the best mods you can do to your car. Factory parts are your best bet (unless your shooting for a custom looking setup). Even junkyard special parts work top-notch once cleaned up. The following list of parts will give you the best performance for cost and reliability:

  • Two new GM 1969 spindles (still available from GM) or 1969 - 1974 Nova units for SPC Camaro (or original units if you can find them)

  • Two junkyard caliper brackets from a 1968 - 1978 midsize GM car using a corporate front wheel disc setup

  • Two Nova or Cutlass (corporate) calipers for cores from the local parts store - eat the core charge (if low) to save searching the junkyard

  • One new/rebuilt master cylinder (don't use junkyard units for this) for 1969 SPC Camaro (or for 1969 - 1972 Nova with front disks for places that charge extra when they hear the word Camaro or Firebird)

  • One set of first gen (or Nova) lines, hardware, and adjustable P-valve

  • One powerboster either new or from almost any late '60s to mid '70s GM

  • Two rotors - 1969 SPC Camaro or 1969 - 1972 Nova

  • One alignment after swapping

If you keep your eyes peeled, and piece it together, you can probably do the swap for about $100.

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